Bluegrass Wildwater Association Member Forum http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/index.php Fri, 18 May 2012 06:21:49 -0700 Phorum 5.2.15a http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9245,9245#msg-9245 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9245,9245#msg-9245
Bob L.


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www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2825199568078.97667.1801686292&type=3]]> xsubdude99 BWA Speak Thu, 17 May 2012 19:25:29 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9236,9236#msg-9236 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9236,9236#msg-9236
[www.herkentucky.com]]]> 40caljason BWA Speak Fri, 18 May 2012 05:12:05 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9233,9233#msg-9233 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9233,9233#msg-9233 Here are the directions for the Red River clean-up. The plan is to meet at the takeout at 8 a.m. and then drive as few vehicles as possible to the put-in at Russ Millers house. I have included directions to both locations. If, for some reason you are late getting to the takeout than just meet us at Russ Millers house.


Directions to the takeout from Bert T Combs (Mountain Parkway) East bound:

1. Take exit 40 for KY-15/ KY-715 toward Beattyville. Follow for 0.3 miles.

2. Turn right onto KY-15/ KY-715 North, follow for 0.7 miles.

3. Take the 1st right onto KY-715 N/Sky Bridge Rd, follow for 4.9 miles.

4. Turn right to stay on KY-715 N/Sky Bridge Rd, follow for 1.3 miles.

5. Destination will be on the left.


Directions to Russ Millers

1. Take the Mountain Parkway east to the Campton Hazard exit and go to the stop light at the bottom of the hill

2. Turn left at the light onto hwy 191 and zigzag through town, at about 1.5 miles from the light the road forks, take the left fork onto hwy 746.

3. Stay on hwy 746 for about 2.5 miles (do not turn left at about 1.5 miles at the concrete block building on to Calaboose Ridge road). After you pass a large white house on the left you turn left on to Calaboose Rocky Branch Road. About 50 yards down the road you will see Byrd Cemetery on your right to let you know you are on the right road.

4. Stay on this road for 1.5 miles when it will fork just before crossing a small concrete bridge. Take the right fork named Big Calaboose Creek Road, go .6 miles to where there will be two closed gates on the left side, go through the single gate (as opposed to the double gate) and stay on the gravel road which goes through the woods and then through another gate. Stay on the main road, go past an abandoned house trailer and go about another 400 yards and you will be at the end of the road and at our house.]]> xsubdude99 Take Me to the River Thu, 17 May 2012 13:41:41 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?7,9232,9232#msg-9232 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?7,9232,9232#msg-9232 Here are the directions for the Red River clean-up. The plan is to meet at the takeout at 8 a.m. and then drive as few vehicles as possible to the put-in at Russ Millers house. I have included directions to both locations. If, for some reason you are late getting to the takeout than just meet us at Russ Millers house.


Directions to the takeout from Bert T Combs (Mountain Parkway) East bound:

1. Take exit 40 for KY-15/ KY-715 toward Beattyville. Follow for 0.3 miles.

2. Turn right onto KY-15/ KY-715 North, follow for 0.7 miles.

3. Take the 1st right onto KY-715 N/Sky Bridge Rd, follow for 4.9 miles.

4. Turn right to stay on KY-715 N/Sky Bridge Rd, follow for 1.3 miles.

5. Destination will be on the left.


Directions to Russ Millers

1. Take the Mountain Parkway east to the Campton Hazard exit and go to the stop light at the bottom of the hill

2. Turn left at the light onto hwy 191 and zigzag through town, at about 1.5 miles from the light the road forks, take the left fork onto hwy 746.

3. Stay on hwy 746 for about 2.5 miles (do not turn left at about 1.5 miles at the concrete block building on to Calaboose Ridge road). After you pass a large white house on the left you turn left on to Calaboose Rocky Branch Road. About 50 yards down the road you will see Byrd Cemetery on your right to let you know you are on the right road.

4. Stay on this road for 1.5 miles when it will fork just before crossing a small concrete bridge. Take the right fork named Big Calaboose Creek Road, go .6 miles to where there will be two closed gates on the left side, go through the single gate (as opposed to the double gate) and stay on the gravel road which goes through the woods and then through another gate. Stay on the main road, go past an abandoned house trailer and go about another 400 yards and you will be at the end of the road and at our house.]]> xsubdude99 Keep Our Rivers Flowing Thu, 17 May 2012 13:33:27 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9231,9231#msg-9231 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9231,9231#msg-9231 Here are the directions for the Red River clean-up. The plan is to meet at the takeout at 8 a.m. and then drive as few vehicles as possible to the put-in at Russ Millers house. I have included directions to both locations. If, for some reason you are late getting to the takeout than just meet us at Russ Millers house.


Directions to the takeout from Bert T Combs (Mountain Parkway) East bound:

1. Take exit 40 for KY-15/ KY-715 toward Beattyville. Follow for 0.3 miles.

2. Turn right onto KY-15/ KY-715 North, follow for 0.7 miles.

3. Take the 1st right onto KY-715 N/Sky Bridge Rd, follow for 4.9 miles.

4. Turn right to stay on KY-715 N/Sky Bridge Rd, follow for 1.3 miles.

5. Destination will be on the left.


Directions to Russ Millers

1. Take the Mountain Parkway east to the Campton Hazard exit and go to the stop light at the bottom of the hill

2. Turn left at the light onto hwy 191 and zigzag through town, at about 1.5 miles from the light the road forks, take the left fork onto hwy 746.

3. Stay on hwy 746 for about 2.5 miles (do not turn left at about 1.5 miles at the concrete block building on to Calaboose Ridge road). After you pass a large white house on the left you turn left on to Calaboose Rocky Branch Road. About 50 yards down the road you will see Byrd Cemetery on your right to let you know you are on the right road.

4. Stay on this road for 1.5 miles when it will fork just before crossing a small concrete bridge. Take the right fork named Big Calaboose Creek Road, go .6 miles to where there will be two closed gates on the left side, go through the single gate (as opposed to the double gate) and stay on the gravel road which goes through the woods and then through another gate. Stay on the main road, go past an abandoned house trailer and go about another 400 yards and you will be at the end of the road and at our house.]]> xsubdude99 BWA Speak Thu, 17 May 2012 13:28:51 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9226,9226#msg-9226 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9226,9226#msg-9226
Any interest in or suggestions for a good two or three day trip? Somewhere not totally overrun by tourists would be nice with maybe the exception of the New River because I just love it that much unless it's big enough to eat me like it is this weekend.]]> AliBlair Take Me to the River Fri, 18 May 2012 05:16:44 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9221,9221#msg-9221 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9221,9221#msg-9221 doug.outdoors@gmail.com]]> Hanleyk1 BWA Speak Thu, 17 May 2012 11:16:19 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9218,9218#msg-9218 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9218,9218#msg-9218
For those of you who tagged along on our Doe River Gorge trip in late April, Teresa sent me the video her boyfriend took on his phone at Bodysnatcher. Here it is, with the clips spliced together and some modest editing.

http://www.hanleyanddenile.net/Bodysnatcher_DoeRiverGorge.wmv]]> Hanleyk1 BWA Speak Thu, 17 May 2012 19:10:35 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?8,9201,9201#msg-9201 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?8,9201,9201#msg-9201 barsip Boats and Gear for Sale Thu, 17 May 2012 06:17:10 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?8,9185,9185#msg-9185 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?8,9185,9185#msg-9185 frazier07@yahoo.com or call 606-776-7134 and we can talk more if interested. Thanks!
Jeff Frazier]]> frazier07 Boats and Gear for Sale Fri, 18 May 2012 05:29:18 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9171,9171#msg-9171 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9171,9171#msg-9171
Let me know

97ate-235-1559, sorry, texting doesn't work.]]> RobertM Take Me to the River Wed, 16 May 2012 13:38:23 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9168,9168#msg-9168 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9168,9168#msg-9168
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Steve]]> rustyboater BWA Speak Wed, 16 May 2012 07:23:27 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9167,9167#msg-9167 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9167,9167#msg-9167
Now I don't have a crystal ball, but I'm guessing that on Sunday the New will probably be in the 10,000+ CFS range, big water in a big way. I'm driving down Saturday evening and boating with the crew on Sunday. If anyone would be interested in paddling with me on the Gorge, speak right up.

For those of you who did NRG trips with me in the last couple of years, the water levels were usually around 2000 to 3000 CFS, with the exception of the Bridge Day trip last year where it was up around 5000. So, if you're coming along on this trip, understand that it's a much bigger, munchier, squirrelier river than what you've seen. I'll be happy to answer any questions.]]> Hanleyk1 Take Me to the River Thu, 17 May 2012 10:22:21 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9158,9158#msg-9158 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9158,9158#msg-9158 joewbwa Take Me to the River Wed, 16 May 2012 04:21:10 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9157,9157#msg-9157 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9157,9157#msg-9157 If you haven't done the Red River yet now's your chance by helping out in the Red River Clean-up. Thanks to the efforts of Russ Miller over the past 15 years and the BWA the Red River remains one of the prettiest rivers in the country, and what a way to spend a Saturday by making sure it stays that way. Here's a list of the people and canoes that have been expressed their desire to once again prove that they are spectacular individuals by participating in the Red River Clean-up set for this Saturday May 19th. If I have listed you in error just let me know. Bob Larkin @ 859-612-1275. But we are still in need of volunteers and canoes. Thanks for all those that have volunteered and for those that will.

Allen ................................... 1 Canoe
Barry G. .............................. 1 trash hauling sit on top
Bethany and a friend .......... 1 Canoe
Jason P (Maybe)
Robert
Walt
Adelessa ............................. 1 Canoe
Austin C............................... 2 Canoes
KC Frankenstein
Tim Miller (Maybe) .............. 1 Canoe]]> xsubdude99 Take Me to the River Wed, 16 May 2012 09:02:29 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9156,9156#msg-9156 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9156,9156#msg-9156 Here's a list of the people and canoes that have been expressed their desire to once again prove that they are spectacular individuals by participating in the Red River Clean-up set for this Saturday May 19th. If I have listed you in error just let me know. Bob Larkin @ 859-612-1275. But we are still in need of volunteers and canoes. Thanks for all those that have volunteered and for those that will.

Allen ................................... 1 Canoe
Barry G. .............................. 1 trash hauling sit on top
Bethany and a friend .......... 1 Canoe
Robert
Walt
Adelessa ............................. 1 Canoe
Austin C............................... 2 Canoes
KC Frankenstein
Tim Miller (Maybe) .............. 1 Canoe]]> xsubdude99 BWA Speak Thu, 17 May 2012 13:25:52 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?7,9154,9154#msg-9154 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?7,9154,9154#msg-9154 Here's a list of the people and canoes that have been expressed their desire to once again prove that they are spectacular individuals by participating in the Red River Clean-up set for this Saturday May 19th. If I have listed you in error just let me know. Bob Larkin @ 859-612-1275. But we are still in need of volunteers and canoes. Thanks for all those that have volunteered and for those that will.

Allen ................................... 1 Canoe
Barry G. .............................. 1 trash hauling sit on top
Bethany and a friend .......... 1 Canoe
Robert
Walt
Austin C............................... 2 Canoes
Adelessa ............................. 1 Canoe
KC Frankenstein
Tim Miller (Maybe) .............. 1 Canoe (Maybe)]]> xsubdude99 Keep Our Rivers Flowing Tue, 15 May 2012 18:51:03 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9152,9152#msg-9152 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9152,9152#msg-9152 Will drive down from Knoxville Sat. AM. Probably the same the following week- then off to Grand Canyon for me.
Chief]]> johnk Take Me to the River Thu, 17 May 2012 19:44:53 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?9,9147,9147#msg-9147 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?9,9147,9147#msg-9147 ChadsBoat BWA-Lounge Tue, 15 May 2012 13:27:57 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9146,9146#msg-9146 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9146,9146#msg-9146 ChadsBoat Take Me to the River Tue, 15 May 2012 12:37:09 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?7,9141,9141#msg-9141 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?7,9141,9141#msg-9141
Check out the list for 2012:


[www.americanrivers.org]

Click the "take action" button to send out some interweb love to your political heroes. It'll only take a few moments.]]> bethany Keep Our Rivers Flowing Tue, 15 May 2012 10:16:22 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9137,9137#msg-9137 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9137,9137#msg-9137 Leila BWA Speak Tue, 15 May 2012 08:23:54 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9126,9126#msg-9126 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9126,9126#msg-9126 barsip Take Me to the River Tue, 15 May 2012 10:31:33 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?9,9125,9125#msg-9125 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?9,9125,9125#msg-9125 JeffK1 BWA-Lounge Tue, 15 May 2012 06:27:56 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?9,9123,9123#msg-9123 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?9,9123,9123#msg-9123

3rd ledge of Wildcat Falls


Final falls and pool of Wildcat


A mile high, with panoramic views of the Smokies, Cheoahs and Unicoi's. Complete solitude. Worth the 2200' of elevation gain in 3 miles.

Lots more photos...
JOYCE KILMER-SLICKROCK PICS

Brandon]]> desertrat BWA-Lounge Tue, 15 May 2012 10:23:01 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9104,9104#msg-9104 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9104,9104#msg-9104 cynthg BWA Speak Tue, 15 May 2012 17:11:20 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9101,9101#msg-9101 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9101,9101#msg-9101
SYOTR,

Brent]]> brentaustin Take Me to the River Fri, 18 May 2012 04:53:52 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9075,9075#msg-9075 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9075,9075#msg-9075 bubba BWA Speak Wed, 16 May 2012 13:09:07 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9064,9064#msg-9064 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?5,9064,9064#msg-9064
Allen]]> eakirkwood BWA Speak Thu, 17 May 2012 10:33:09 -0700 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9062,9062#msg-9062 http://www.bluegrasswildwater.org/bwaforum/read.php?6,9062,9062#msg-9062
I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Sect IV below Woodall has many deadly hazards. All are easily avoided at most flows, but unfortunately most are hidden - which make them all the more dangerous! Section III also has hazards, but again easily avoided at normal flows. The Narrows has an undercut on the left and a sieve bottom left that is not in play until higher flows - both easily avoided. Bull Sluice at the end of Sect III is a solid Class IV rapid (mainline) with a Class III sneak above 1.5 or so. It has hazards you should be aware of if you choose to tangle with it. Sect IV is Class III to Woodall and Class III-IV+ at Woodall above 1.5 ft or so. If you run Woodall, be aware of the innocent looking but deadly hole that is easy to avoid but unfortunately has claimed many lives. I will not go into all of the hazards on Sect IV below Woodall. I do not recommend attempting this section though unless you have a guide that knows the hazards! Many good boaters have died on Sect IV and there have been many more close calls. I highly recommend reviewing the AW pages on the Chattooga before attempting it or any other river for that matter. This especially important for lower Sect IV:

[www.americanwhitewater.org]

Sect III:

[www.americanwhitewater.org]

For those that are planning to run Sect IV below Woodall, I strongly urge you to read Buzz Williams (local legend) essay about Left Crack and his experience with a death there:

[www.gapaddle.com]

If you are with me we'll definitely be talking about Left Crack far above it.

In regards to what we are running on what day we have no plans as yet. Our preferences will depend on water level and who we are boating with. Most likely this will include anywhere between Earles Ford and the Lake. Brit and I are not planning on boating Sect II, but if others come that would like to do this section and some are doing Sect III from Earls then it may be possible to coordinate shuttle for these two sections if necessary. I'm hoping to have 1 or 2 strong boaters come along so I can introduce Brit / others to lower Sect IV ... if the water level is right. Other options include Ocoee Sat / Mon going to or coming home from Chattooga if others are into it. As I recall, that is the first weekend the Upper Ocoee is releasing. Or if we are blessed with rain perhaps runs in the Smokies.

When attempting to plan this trip in past years, no one seemed interested in pursuing campground reservations for group / other sites prior to the week before the trip. Therefore, I haven't seen a reason to try to organize campground reservations this year. Brit and I will most likely be staying at Mtn Valley Inn or Knights Inn in Dillard - cheap / clean. There are 2 good campgrounds in the area. Oconee State Park (SC) and Black Rock Mtn SP (GA). Both are about 20-25 min from US76 access bridge, where most trips meet. I've never stayed at either but been told by reliable sources that both are good, giving an edge to Black Rock Mtn simply because you pass through Clayton to get to it from the river - in case you need food, gas, etc. OSP is pretty much in the boonies. Check both parks out on the map if you're confused. If someone finds available spots at either and weather will be nice we may reconsider and camp / cabin as well.

There is also primitive camping at multiple access points along the Chattooga corridor. The most popular ones are the most convenient ones to US 76 access as expected - Woodall and Thrift's Ferry. They offer some pretty cool riverside spots. No camping is allowed at US76 and it is the closest car access to the river besides the Lake takeout. All other parking spots are 1/4+ mile from the river. So if you want to camp near the river you have to haul your gear that far. Other areas have good spots at / near the parking spots (Falls Creek) and I think Thrift's as well but Falls is a good ways from US76. In my experience Thrift's and Woodall are a bit crowded on Memorial Day weekend, particularly with a nice weather forecast. Brit and I are not usually into the primitive thing for this trip.

We've had some great times on previous trips introducing folks to this beautiful Wild and Scenic river. I very much hope to repeat that experience again this year! Check out the Chattooga, it's worth the drive!]]> powhoundus Take Me to the River Mon, 14 May 2012 03:39:01 -0700